Cost of Living in São Paulo. Prices Updated Dec 2020.

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Amazing place, and kind of a futuristic city!! Public transportation is also great, especially the subway.

3 months ago

A particularly interesting city to make business (Brazil is the strongest economy in Latin America). I recommend learning some basic Portuguese to really network and connect with the people; Brazilians might party openly with foreigners, but reserve the most interesting parts of their culture to Portuguese speakers.

8 months ago

Sao Paulo is a great city, one of the biggest in the world and has everything you’ll ever need. Compare it with New York without all the glamour and you have it

11 months ago

Never written a review before but I’ve been to most of the top cities on Nomadlist and they’re all pretty good…. however, Sao Paolo is a fine city, typical for Latin America, but it doesn’t belong at #7 (as of this writing) 🙂 There’s just nothing especially interesting about it compared to other cities.

1 year ago

Greatest city to be a nomad in Brazil by far. Low crime rate when compared to Rio, 4G works great in a lot of places and what you can have the most is fun here. Cost of living can be a little too high if you don’t pick carefully a place, but people are friendly and help you to find the perfect place. Ah, and food here is delicious, even if you’re a vegan.

1 year ago

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I am new to working out of coworking spaces. My business entails a lot of video conferences. I haven’t chosen a specific coworking space yet but generally, what are the potential solutions for this? I have a microphone and headphones but still fell like it may be inconsiderate to take the calls anywhere in the coworking space. For a solo person, what are some general solutions? Are there usually options to rent a private room by the hour with just enough room to set up my microphone and laptop? Sidenote: any coworking space recommendations in Florianapolis, Brazil would also be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

I’d recommend staying and working from a Selina property in Brazil. They look like they have a pretty awesome place in Florianopolis too. I’m at one of their places in São Paulo. They gave me a private office, so no issues with video calls from here.

I’ve actually stayed in a Selina property before in Colombia but did not check out their coworking space, I really like the idea of the personal office I will be sure to check out their option in Florianopolis, thanks!

Hi everyone. I am new on this forum and will post in the introductory thread when I have some more time. My question is:

What’s the best mobile-data option in Brazil for nomads?

background info to the question: I bought a vevo (vivo?) sim the other day and charged up around $7US on it seems now that I can only send text messages but cannot call other people or get internet. I will be in brazil for min 5 weeks max 3 months. sorry if I’ve posted this in the wrong section.

Hi all just to let you know what happened . A Brazilian friend of mine used his Brazilian ID to sign up to a data only plan. 14GB for one month costing 120 reals

I found vivo to not be very accommodating for tourists/digital nomads but luckily found a solution

Here’s what I ended up doing when I lived there for these last 3 months:

  • VIVO as my carrier. (O2, Claro, and TIM were pretty awful. I tried switching between them when I was roaming.)
  • Prepaid SIM card with no voice plan.
  • “VIVO TURBO” prepaid data for 14.99 BRL/week (~65 BRL/month)
    • Gets you 1 GB per week, no rollover

4 GB/month for ~$21/month isn’t a bad deal. You really don’t need voice or SMS in Brazil. Literally everyone uses WhatsApp. For any calls/texts outside of Brazil, you’re better off using VoIP (like Skype or Google Voice).

You do not need a CPF (Brazilian tax ID number) for a prepaid plan. You can just go to any VIVO store and show them your passport. In São Paulo, you’re likely to be able to find a store with an English-speaking manager.

Tip: After you get your prepaid phone, you can manage the account online with the “Meu Vivo” mobile app, including managing your plan. You can also manage your prepaid account using the Meu Vivo website. Instead of authenticating with a CPF, use “Mobile Connect Log-in” to authenticate via SMS.

@phil.spyrou I am in Rio and went into a TIM store and got a monthly data plan. You may need some form of ID. I used my driving license.

  • 3GB, 30 Days for BRL90
  • 5GB, 30 Days for BRL110

Not sure about online. I don’t speak Portuguese so I don’t do any purchases online here – because I can’t dispute in Portuguese if something goes wrong and they have my credit card on file.

When you call do you get a recorded voice? I had TIM but I believe you have to register the number. For that you need some sort of Brazilian ID/fiscal number. I speak portuguese and the gentleman at the kiosk did it for me. Do you know someone there or go to a coworking space? Maybe a native can help.

I’ll be in Rio for 10 days next year during Carvanal. Although I’m flying into Rio, I’d like to spend at least half the time somewhere else as well. I’ve gotten a solid recommendation for Olinda and receptive to other suggestions (or further endorsements of Olinda).

While in Rio, it’s been suggested to avoid Copacabana and possibly find a house in Ipanema to rent. Is this a good suggestion?

What about Olinda?

Any and all recommendations are welcome, solicited and appreciated! Thanks to everyone!

Hi, guys. It appears that I will be in Rio on these days. So, I’ve decided to book tickets for Sambodromo event.

Which day is the most promising?

Do you have any recommendations as to the best seats? Grandstands, front box, special areas for tourists – too much information for a person, who have never experienced the Carnaval.

Also, is there any chance to take part in Carnaval?

Sunday and Monday have the best “schools.” This is also why it’s much more expensive that on those days as well.

You should definitely go to Olinda. I’m Brazilian and I’ve experienced Carnival in São Paulo, Rio and Olinda.

São Paulo (I lived there for 7 years) looks like a ghost city in carnival holidays. Rio (2 carnivals) is great but most part of the fun is watching to samba schools parade. In Salvador (had friends there) you can pay to join the parades, the music is mostly Brazilian pop music and you have to stay inside the band’s vip area, otherwise is very unsafe.

Olinda (my favourite spot, currently my home town) is very cultural with authentic music played by orchestras on the streets. You don’t need to pay anything to stay close to the presentation and all the fun. In my opinion, is the most traditional carnival in Brazil. Check this video:

We will be in Rio during Carnival and have a place in Copacabana. I hear great things about the festival and location. We will be having some digital nomad meetups during that time if yall are interested in joining us…PM me

Ipanema is by far the best area to stay in Rio. You’ll have lots of bars & restaurants, a great beach (Praia de Ipanema) at one side and Lagoa (lake) at the other.

Carnival in Olinda is great, less tourists vs Rio and more of a ‘authentic’ feel. Salvador is great party wise, but shady (and rather ugly). Also stay away from Salvador if you are looking for something more classy.

I’ve also heard good things about Olinda.

I live in Salvador, and this is the place to be if you like ENORMOUS street parties. Carnaval here is famous for the trios eletricos, giant trucks / floats / sound systems with famous bands performing on them and thousands of people following in the streets. For better or worse. (Don’t bring anything to the streets you wouldn’t want to lose).

Make sure to check the timing; the exact length of Carnaval varies in each city. Here’s an overview of Rio, Salvador, Olinda, and Sao Paulo. You can see that Rio’s events are mostly Feb 5-8, Olinda’s are Feb 5-9, and Salvador’s are Jan 31 – Feb 10 (yeah, they really stretch it out here ). There are often pre- and post- Carnaval parties, though, beyond the official processions.

@shayna – thanks for much for the advice. You’ve convinced me that I want to spend a couple of days in Salvador as well. Do you mind recommending some good places to stay?

Hi all, I am looking for apartments to rent for 2 months starting in late January 2016 in Rio de Janeiro. I know of AirBnb,,, and one Rio apartment FB group. Any others out there? Thanks

Amazing info…I didn’t know about EasyTaxi…downloading it now

Think you have the most important sites.

Focus on Ipanema, Leblon, Copacabana, Leme or Botafogo/Flamengo location wise. In that order . Ipanema and Leblon are by far the best areas to stay, with the nicest beaches, Lagoa (lake), bars and restaurants. Copacabana is ok. It’s cheaper, but more run down. Leme is a nice small neighborhood (at the end of Copacabana), but it’s quiet and further away from the metro. As you’ll probably be spending a lot of time in Ipanema/Leblon, I would stay in Ipanema/Leblon or somewhere close to the metro. Botafogo/Flamengo are nice in their own way. Botofago has a nightlife as well, but way more alternative.

Make sure to download Uber and Easytaxi. They are great! Get in touch if you have any questions. Spend over 3 years in Rio, so know know my way around & happy to help.

Thank you…much appreciation

I don´t know exactly in which FB group you are, but there are a couple of others:

Anyway, it´s a tough task to find a cheap and good accomodation in Rio =/

Hey guys!

I’m going to Brazil to bootstrap my company (I will use my UK company because it’s easier) in 4 months.

I’m French and since France-Brazil’s match in 1998, they decided to disable the 90 days extension of stay for France (kidding about the world cup wink).

I want to stay there for 180 days, every visa that I see require an extension(that us French people can’t use) after the first 90 days.

Anybody got into this situation?

Indeed those are good options but I am just making the hypothesis that I am going to meet cool people that i won’t want to leave there.

I would have loved to use the student VISA but the courses there are quite expensive (Porto Alegre)

So I should use a bank like HSBC with low (or none) fees to internationally withdraw money every time?

Maybe Brazilians can chime in and confirm very bad things happen if br federal police finds someone with expired visa. All I can say based on personal experience: crossed from cde to foz, Brazil and tried to catch plane out. Airline agent asked me if I have br visa and I unwisely said I do not, without further explanation. He smiled, picked up phone and called cops. Cops arrived ready to arrest me until I showed them paraguayan residency. Took them a while to confirm it and they let me go.

I already thought about that, I will move by train or bus if i want to switch city.

It’s normal that you get caught by airplane agents.

I never heard about cops though, I thought they would tell you that you have 8 days to leave the country and that’s it.

Brazilian here. I don’t recommend overstaying in Brazil in the same way I wouldn’t recommend a Brazilian to overstay in France. In the end of the day it’s illegal and you could have problems. This article says that the “Brazilian government and immigration have announced that they will be clamping harder down on illegals and making it more difficult for them.” It suggests that the easiest way is to get a student visa, so you may want to check that out.

If you don’t want to get a student visa, why not break your trip and stay 3 months in Brazil and 3 months in another country, such as Colombia or Chile? (both lovely countries).

Btw this article was made in 2013.

In 2013 France-Brazil started to create a working holiday VISA.

They take it slow in both case so I guess it is still good ^^.

Cool, good luck! I hope it works out for you!

Doing things in Brazil take tremendous long time. Doing anything bureaucratic on a tourist visa is hopeless. Opening a bank account can easy take 3+ months.

You should get a CPF number if you want to do anything (sim card, bank account, etc). This is easy to get though.

Ok so I will go for the ‘bad boy fine’, I know that you can’t do things like opening a bank account once the VISA is over.

Are there other vital things that I should do while my VISA is still legit?

As a Brazilian I don’t know how to apply for this visa. But I can sure that they will never kick you out, unless you make a really mess.

Overstaying in Brazil is the easiest thing. When you leave the country you pay a fine R$8,28 per day you overstayed, capped at 100 days (max fine R$828).

If you have a stomach for that.

That’s a really cool answer.

I was thinking that they would kick you out if you overstay.

So you are telling me that I can stay for 10 years and nobody will kick me out, all I’ll need to do is pay when I leave?

Pretty much. And about once a decade, the Brazilian government does an amnesty offer for people who are currently in the country illegally. I’ve had several friends gain permanent residency that way after overstaying. (No way to predict when and if the next round will come, though).

If you do pay the fine upon leaving, make sure to keep the documentation that you’ve paid it so that you don’t have any problems upon re-entry. I knew someone who overstayed, paid the fine, left, and later upon return they asked her for the documentation that she’d paid, but she’d left it at home – so she had to pay again.

I guess it doesn’t work the same in the USA ;).

✅ Affordable to live

✅ Fast internet

✅ Lots of fun stuff to do

✅ Warm now

✅ Warm all year round

✅ Good air quality on average

✅ Nomad List members liked going here a lot

✅ Many Nomad List members here all year round

✅ Spacious and not crowded

✅ Easy to make friends

✅ High quality of education

✅ Great hospitals

✅ Democratic

✅ Safe for women

✅ Family friendly

✅ Very friendly to LGBTQ+

✅ Not many people smoke tobacco

❌ Not safe at all

❌ Very humid now

❌ Difficult to do business

❌ Roads can be dangerous

❌ Freedom of speech is weak

❌ People don’t speak English well

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